In this episode, Cammi and Gus finally talk to the frequently mentioned, sometimes dragged, ever loved, best artist, funniest person, Sarah Allwine. As usual, the ever spiraling Ceramics Podcast shows up to the podcast party and brings beer.

In this episode, Cammi and Gus discuss playing guitar (random) and talk to sculptor, Snow Yu, from the porcelain capital of the world, Jingdezhen, China. They talk about ceramics, grad school critique and making work in the US. You can check out Snow’s sculpture at snowyu.net.